SubscribeThe Pope’s Remarks Spark ‘Muslim Outrage’
A round-up of the latest spate of mindless outrage from the world’s touchiest people.
First from the UK’s Telegraph:
Members of Muslim League Jammu Kashmir (MLJK) shout slogans during a demonstration in Srinagar, India, Friday, Sept. 15, 2006. Police detained dozen of members of MLJK after they took out a protest demonstration against Pope Benedict XVI for making what it called ‘derogatory’ comments about Islam, and seeking an apology from him for hurting the sentiments of Muslims.
Pope’s speech sparks Muslim anger
By Damien McElroy
(Filed: 15/09/2006)Angry protests against Pope Benedict XVI erupted in the Islamic world today as the Vatican struggled to explain a reference by the Pontiff to the Prophet Mohammad’s “evil and inhuman” contribution to religion.
The Vatican has tried to defend the Pope after comments he made about Islam and jihad prompted anger in the Muslim world.
Muslim clerics from Cairo to Kashmir declared the Pope had revived the spirit of the medieval crusades and the official sermon for Friday prayers in Teheran condemned the Pope as “rude and weak-minded.”…
In a speech on Tuesday at Regensburg University in his native Germany Pope Benedict analysed a conversation between Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus and a Persian scholar after the siege of Constantinople in 1391.
He quoted the emperor as saying: “Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
Pope Benedict went on to question as “unreasonable” Muslim adherence to Jihad, a holy war to propagate the faith…
The controversial Gulf-based cleric, Sheikh Youssef al-Qardawi today called on Muslims to protest, saying: “ Muslims have the right to be angry and hurt by these comments from the highest cleric in Christianity.”
Turkey’s ruling AKP party joined the criticism. Its deputy leader likened Pope Benedict to Hitler…
The head of the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood appealed to Islamic countries to threaten to break off relations with the Vatican unless the Pontiff withdrew his remarks.
The Vatican has so far refused to apologise. A statement by chief Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said: “What is in the Holy Father’s heart is a clear and radical rejection of religious motives for violence.”
The Rochdale-based Ramadan Foundation immediately rejected the Vatican’s explanation. “ If the Pope wanted to attack Islam and the Prophet Mohammed’s teachings, he could have been brave enough to say it personally without quoting a 14th-century Byzantine Christian emperor,” it said.
Yeah, the Muslims never hide behind quotes.
Next this from France’s AFP:
Pakistani Muslims hold rally to condemn the Pope’s remarks, Friday, Sept 15, 2006 in Multan, Pakistan. Pakistan’s parliament unanimously adopted a resolution condemning Pope Benedict XVI for making what it called ‘derogatory’ comments about Islam during his visit to Germany, and seeking an apology from him for hurting the sentiments of Muslims.
India seizes papers with pope’s Islam criticism
Thu Sep 14, 5:27 AM ET
SRINAGAR, India (AFP) - Police in Indian Kashmir seized newspapers carrying Pope Benedict XVI’s strong criticisms of Islam and jihad, fearing a Muslim backlash in the flashpoint area.
"We’ve seized copies of (Indian) newspapers carrying the pope’s remarks. It has been done to prevent any tension here," a police officer said.
Copies of the Indian dailies were impounded at Srinagar’s high-security airport when they arrived from New Delhi, he said on Thursday…
The Muslim league, a Kashmiri separatist group, called for a protest Friday over the pope’s comments.
"Whatever has been said against our Prophet is unbearable," the group’s chief Masarat Alam said. "It should be condemned by all."…
Indian Kashmir is in the grip of a Muslim insurgency against New Delhi’s rule that has left more than 44,000 people dead since 1989.
And then this from Ireland’s Breaking News:
Muslim students burn an effigy of Pope Benedict XVI at a protest rally in Allahabad, India, Friday, Sept. 15, 2006. A growing chorus of Muslim leaders has called on the Pope to apologize for the alleged derogatory comments made by him about Islam.
Pope compared to Hitler and Mussolini over Islam remarks
15/09/2006 - 10:55:22
Turkey’s ruling Islamic-rooted party joined a wave of criticism of Pope Benedict XVI today, saying he would go down in history in the same league as leaders like Hitler and Mussolini for remarks he made on Islam…
The Pope made his remarks on Islam in a speech in which he quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and an educated Persian on the truths of Christianity and Islam.
“The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war,” the Pope said.
“He said, I quote, ’Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,”’ he quoted the emperor as saying.
Benedict added, “I quote,” twice before pronouncing the phrases on Islam and described them as “brusque,” while neither explicitly agreeing with nor repudiating them.
Kapusuz told the state-owned Anatolia news agency that Benedict’s remarks looked “like an effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades”.
“ Benedict, the author of such unfortunate and insolent remarks is going down in history for his words. However … he is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini, ” he said…
Earlier today, Pakistan’s parliament unanimously adopted a resolution condemning Pope Benedict XVI for making what it called “derogatory” comments about Islam.
Pakistani Muslims hold rally after evening prayers at a local mosque to condemn Pope’s remarks, Friday, Sept. 15, 2006 in Islamabad, Pakistan. Pakistan’s Parliament unanimously adopts a resolution condemning Pope Benedict XVI for making what it called ‘derogatory’ comments about Islam and seeking apology from him for hurting the sentiments of Muslims.
Notice how these "expressions of outrage" always just happen to be whipped up on Friday after the Muslims’ weekly "evening prayers."
And what, pray tell, do you think their sign maker is trying to say here:
Pakistani Muslims hold placards to condemn Pope Benedict XVI for making what they regard ‘derogatory’ comments about Islam, during a rally in Multan September 15, 2006. Muslims deplored on Friday remarks on Islam by Pope Benedict and many of them said the Catholic leader should apologise in person to dispel the impression that he had joined a campaign against their religion.
But my favorite line is:
Muslims have the right to be angry and hurt by these comments from the highest cleric in Christianity.
Do they ever do anything else besides threaten and then play the victim?
As the Byzantine emperor rightly adduced:
Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.
Well? Exactly what good has Islam qua Islamever done?
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September 15th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Ever notice that their signs are always written in English?
How many of these screaming idiots can even speak English much less read it?
September 15th, 2006 at 11:25 am
I hope this wakes up the Catholics that have been so appeasing of the Islam faith.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:28 am
Is the beard some sort of status symbol? Is shaggier better or does the guy in the first photo just have some questionable personal care abilities?
September 15th, 2006 at 11:36 am
The first thought through my mind when I saw the first pic was that it should be the men who wear the burkahs.
I sometimes wonder if we aren’t watching the info-age equivalent of the civil rights movement–high on hyperbole and low on intellectual grounding.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:38 am
What’s wrong with this sentence……
“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence,” Pakistan Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.
Kind of says it all, doesn’t it.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:44 am
I hope this wakes up the Catholics that have been so appeasing of the Islam faith.
THIS Catholic has never been appeasing of or to the Islamic faith. I see it as a threat, and it wouldn’t surprise me if something happened in/near the Vatican or to His Holiness in response to his comments.
Too many have. Too many who don’t realize that Catholicism - and all of Christianity - would be obliterated if these above Muslims have their way.
But think about it. These protesting, “outraged” Muslims are like spoiled, whiny children - look at them the wrong way and they throw a tantrum. And it’s dangerous.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:51 am
Moslems are a great boon to editors. Simply cut and paste their reaction to (fill in the blank) as an “outrage to Islam”. A few stock pics, toss in some pre-written cutlines. Ta-da…done. Let’s go play golf.
September 15th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Since the Islamofacists are going on a Jihad against the Pope, how about a green light for the rest of us to go on a Holy Crusade!!!
September 15th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
I am with you mathews, I am going out this afternoon and burn a few rounds. got the urge to keep in practise never know when it will come in handy.
September 15th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
So,
The Pope quoted from a 14th century Emperor, who said that Mohammed spread his faith by the sword…
And this pissed off the Moslems.
While I am a little upset at the concilliatory redaction by the Vatican, I don’t understand the violent reaction from the Moslems? After all, Mohammed did spread his faith by the edge of the sword - that much is historical fact.
And it continues today in the name of Mohammed - murderers who blow themselves and others up in the name of Islam. They call it jihad (Holy - as in religious - war)
But, if there is even a hint of Christians calling jihad ‘wrong’, Christians are accused of ’starting a Crusade’.
This makes no sense - It seems that Moslems everywhere ought to learn the basics of playground rules - If you are going to pick a fight based upon certain ground rules (in your case, religion), you don’t get to complain when the guy you picked a fight with beats the crap out of you based upon those same ground rules.
September 15th, 2006 at 3:30 pm
Here is a fun development from Al Jazeera:
September 15th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Excuse me, does not most any seal, flag, iconic representation of all things Islam carry, feature or use as a frame a SWORD?
No, no, it does not mean anything….very pretty, this curving line…..
Are grenades permitted on this crusade?
September 15th, 2006 at 4:34 pm
Muslim leaders and (of course) the BBC do their level best to stir the pot:
September 15th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
Truth hurts. Truthfully.
September 15th, 2006 at 5:14 pm
Bloody hell! There is as much a “Prime Minister of Palestine” as there is an effing “Imperial Poohbah of Peoria”. There are no “Palestinian people”; they are all garden-variety Arabs. They can give themselves all the titles they want. Without the Israeli “sons of pigs and monkeys” to foot the bill, there’d be no “Palestinian” infrastructure. How many “Palestinians” does it take to change a light-bulb? None, they’ll sit in the dark and blame the Jews. It’s time for the IDF to pack every one of their ratty asses back to Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and the other fetid stink-nests from which they arose. Take that, Ismail Haniya, you abba-dabba POS.
“PALESTINIAN PRIME MINISTER ISMAIL HANIYA
In the name of our Palestinian people… we express our condemnation of the statements of his Excellency the Pope, against Islam as a belief, sharia, history, and a lifestyle.”
Yeah right. Get a real job. I gotta go…
September 15th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
Hail, Imperial Poohbah of Peoria from the Imperial and Highly Exalted Grand Potentate of the Kingdom of Oz!
too funny, dhimminever :)
September 15th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
If I may offer a few responses to the comments from the Mooselimb peanut gallery SG posted;
“PAKISTANI PARLIAMENT”
“The derogatory remarks of the Pope about the philosophy of jihad and Prophet Muhammad have injured sentiments across the Muslim world and pose the danger of spreading acrimony among the religions.”
Not as much acrimony as 19 mooselimb thugs crashing four aircraft on 9/11…!!!
“AHMAD KHATAMI, IRANIAN CLERIC”
“It is unfortunate to see that the leader of the world’s Christians is so ill-informed about Islam and speaks so shamelessly.”
Pope Benedict XVI is not the leader of the world’s Christians, he is the leader of the Catholic Church. Perhaps you missed that lecture in high school Khatami. Oh wait, I forgot, the schools you attended teach nothing beyond a 7th century mentality, flat earth, sharia law, goat f*kkin’, etc, etc.
“SHEIKH YOUSSEF AL-QARDAWI, QATARI MUSLIM CLERIC AND HEAD OF ISLAMIC SCHOLARS’ ASSOCIATION”
“Our hands are outstretched and our religion calls for peace, not for war, for love not for hatred, for tolerance, not for fanaticism, for knowing each other and not for disavowing each other.”
What hookah pipe do you have your lips latched on to there Al-Qardawi..?? Surely you can’t be talking about the “Mooselimb” RofP are you..?? The same RofP that beheads infidels, stones women for being raped, kills their own daughters for adultery, tests young boys for anal virtues, etc, etc..??
Fr*gg*n’ stupid asshats..!! May Allah infest your shorts with the fleas of a thousand camels..!!
September 15th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
Comparing the pope to Hitler has offended the sentiments of all people who have
a clear understanding of history and we demand an immediate personal apology.
Idiot Poohbahs.
September 15th, 2006 at 6:12 pm
The 14th worldwide meltdown of Muslims caused by Pope…
Pope Benedict is starting to give me reasons to rejoin the Catholic Faith. If there is such a thing as speaking truth to power then he is fully committed to such a course. No namby pamby beating around the bushes, he goes straight for the central issue…
September 15th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
wampaku40, Holy hand grenades? Also, another member of the moose besides limb would be more appropriate for them.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:19 pm
Pierre…well said. I was truely amazed the Pope called them out like that. Benedict has been blasted in the msm for not having his predecessor’s political savy….screw ‘em! The Crusades are on.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
I’m with ya GM
“AHMAD KHATAMI, IRANIAN CLERIC
It is unfortunate to see that the leader of the world’s Christians is so ill-informed ”
It’s typical that Ahmad Khatami, Iranian Cleric is perpetually misinformed since no Pope for several centuries has been the leader of the world’s Christians. He’s probably a great guy, smart, snappy dresser, well-read, etc…but he’s not my leader. But, he’s right! So my leader or not, I’m behind him on this one!!!
September 15th, 2006 at 7:37 pm
Someone with Photoshop skills should superimpose Rosie into that top pic.
Oh wait, I don’t think her head would fit.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:40 pm
It was asked in the 14th century and is still unanswered today “what have the Muslims brought to the world outside of death and destruction?”
The Pope understands that Islam is not a religion in the generally accepted sense.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
“he is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini,” he said…”
Weren’t they brought down by…the Mostly Christian/Jewish West?
The Pope is correct. Calling them “unreasonable” is lowballing it. All Mohammed, the David Koresh of his day, has brought Muslims is war, misery, poverty (except for the privileged few) and a society so mired in the 12th century that there’s no hope for dealing with them in civilised terms. An effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades? I see nothing wrong with that.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:59 pm
A bit OTS here but somewhat related. Did anyone catch the BS that the “Crown Porcine Princess of Lezbos” spewed on that “man bashing” show, “The View” the other day..?? From NewBusters;
http://newsbusters.org/node/7577
“Rosie O’Donnell, the new host of “The View,” restrained herself for exactly one week before letting fly with her extreme liberalism. On the September 12 edition, in response to fellow co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck’s comment that militant Islam is a grave threat, O’Donnell stated that “radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America.” The comedienne also attacked America’s response to 9/11:
O’Donnell: “We were attacked not by a nation. And as a result of the attack and the killing of nearly 3,000 innocent people we invaded two countries and killed innocent people in their countries.”
I shall refrain from posting her other vile spew but read the whole post if you get a chance. Another moronic liberal entertainer with absolutely no clue about world affairs. Her symptoms of BDS shine clearly through the fog-like moonbat haze that surrounds Holly-asshat-wood and the MSM..!!
September 15th, 2006 at 8:01 pm
Poor Elisabeth. Between Baba Wawa’s lectures on abortion choice and Rosie’s rather aggressively expressed views on, well, everything else, I think Elisabeth may not have a job for too much longer.
September 15th, 2006 at 8:15 pm
Damn it first..!! I really didn’t want that visualization in my head..!! LMAO..!!
September 15th, 2006 at 8:22 pm
Did Muhammed (Propeller Beanie Upon Him) cry like a little bitch all of the time (when he was not sexually molesting little girls), or did that evolve at a later date?
September 15th, 2006 at 8:33 pm
“The Pope quoted from a 14th century Emperor, who said that Mohammed spread his faith by the sword… And this pissed off the Moslems.”
I have yet to see much stress on the fact that the emperor said this while he was surrounded by Ottomans (Turkish Muslims), who were beseiging Byzantium (Constantinople) and on their way to trying to take over all of the world.
Byzantium finally fell to the Turks some 60 years later in 1454, after having fought the Muslims off for 400 years. And they have held it ever since.
The circumstances are not unlike today.
Of course Wikipedia has all about the emperor, including even this contrived “controversy”:
Manuel II Palaiologos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_II_Palaeologus
September 15th, 2006 at 9:12 pm
My God………….Jesse Jackson (phony minister) slams white people every chance he gets and gets by with it with the MSM being totally mum about it. The Pope tells the truth about the [phony] prophet and the [phony] religion and every paper in the known world picks up on it. And while white people do not burn Jackson in effegy in the town square, the ever peaceful Muslims take to the streets. Religion of peace, my ass. And sorry, it is not stuck in the 14th century, it is stuck in the 7th century so lets be factual.
The crusades were started to protect Christians from the Muslim hoards. Maybe it is time to start them again.
September 15th, 2006 at 9:18 pm
Amen retired05, it is time to show them just how far behind they are. Nuke the bastards into oblivion.
September 15th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
Actually, I would prefer to have the current Muslims match the physical characteristics of the 7th century muslims….meaning>> Freakin DEAD! God! How much of this is it going to take before we get to the matters at hand, and eliminate this plague from our country? HUH?
Funny though, recent polls show the Democrat’s vaunted 23 point lead three months ago is now down to 3 points…and falling. Again, when people know it is time to live or die, they will not vote weak spinless shitbirds into office. There is a glimmer of hope!
The muslims will “punish” the American voters for not electing their hand picked candidates that they paid so much money for….so fasten your seat belts kiddies, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride~! Lock and load folks…long range, medium range, short range, gas range, radar range…..be ready!
September 15th, 2006 at 9:50 pm
Lets face it. Muslims will always be outraged. They are ignorant illiterate bastards who are told to go out and be outrages for the cameras…and hold these signs up too, and look really pissed off.
I am so sick of their temper tantrums I could scream. Who gives a shit if they are outraged? My child always cries when she doenst get her way, and because of that, she doesnt get anything until the tantrums stop. It works too.
On the other hand, a fawning parent who caves the instant little billy pisses and moans goes nowhere fast. Billy learns quick that mommy and daddy are malleable putty because of his shit head actions, so they are rewarded with more, and more frequently too.
Our lovely religion of peace has learned the same thing. Jump out into the street, protest and scream about whatever pissed someone off this time, and the papers jump up like a whore seeing a limousine stop and run with whatever they are bitching about. They learn, they repeat.
Someone should, ( I know, extreme again) the next time a hoarde of these stupid mindless pricks go out and start protesting that Muhammed’s winky was insulted by the use of inner tubes in bicycles, when the entire crowd is out there jumping around like baboons infected with anal warts….drop about fifty five senso fused cluster munitions on them. Let em jump around then, the assholes.
But, they are that way, and we are by the laws of this land, helpless little pussies who cant call a terrorist a muslim. Screw em. People are waking up to the threat to US! Screw the Euro panties, and kiss off the Arab world entirely. Profile! Call an Arab an Arab! Who really gives a shit? Moonbeam Barkchomper and her sidekick “Biff”? They get offended? Tough shit!
Why is it that everyone else can be offended by me, yet if I am offended by them, I get the name calling ranting screamers and accused of everything possible? I AM OFFENDED BY THESE ASSWIPES!! So, of course, I let everyone know. I have been keeping to myself so much, nobody is sure of where I stand.
September 15th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
I AM OFFENDED BY THESE ASSWIPES!! So, of course, I let everyone know. I have been keeping to myself so much, nobody is sure of where I stand.
Thanks for clearing that up for us SJ. LOL. We were starting to wonder if you were a collaborator.
September 15th, 2006 at 9:58 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHa~ Yeah, DW….like Cindy Sheehan is a patriot.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
I know. Ain’t it gawd-awful, Gila?? :)
I heard on the radio that Mark Steyn made an interesting point yesterday on some radio show; that islamofascists behead homosexuals in other countries, just for being homosexual.
I wish Elisabeth Hasselbeck would have hit ol’ Rosie with THAT one on the air.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:51 pm
Here is the Vatican’s statement:
I don’t see any retraction or apology.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:51 pm
Can you see rosie o-funnels face if she were told her carpet munching would get
her pumkin head cut off from her over fed stomachs. ( Yes I do mean stomachs )
Cows have more than one, I submit this as exhibit A.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:53 pm
Last time I saw a set of lips like rosie’s, They had a hook in em
September 15th, 2006 at 10:57 pm
Gees, sj, I think we are twins seprated at birth but you write better tan me. go for it you are on the right track.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
SJ is with out a doubt the funniest man while telling the truth I have ever seen.
Ya gotta love the man.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
I have a feeling Rosie’s going to provide us a lot more fodder before she runs that show into the ground.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:16 pm
I keep a copy of the quran in the bathroon.
And if muslims think what the Pope said offends them.
They should see what I use the book for one page at a time.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:16 pm
I don’t see any retraction or apology.
It seems more and more that the Catholic church is the only one that is sticking to its guns while all the other Christian religions seem to be caving into progressiveness.
I certainly don’t say that to insult anyone else’s religion. Please don’t take offense anyone. I’m just tossing this out for discussion.
I can’t honestly claim to be a Christian. I’m still undecided. For me, the battleground is creation (because of my fascination with paleontology and natural history} versus evolution.
But if I was going to sign onto a religion right now, I’d have to say it’d be the Catholic one. For the simple reason that they haven’t (to my admittedly limited knowledge) changed their stance on anything in the face of modern (read liberal) pressure.
Any thoughts anyone?
September 16th, 2006 at 12:02 am
Religion discussions are like playing with hand grenades. The more things you pick off of it, the better chance it will blow up in your face. Believe it or not, I am a tolerant guy! Worship with the people and beliefs you feel best with. I dont wish to have someone at my front door telling me I am going to hell, because they dont know me, and I guarantee they wont after a stunt like that. So, I suggest you try different faiths, go to the services, see which one makes you feel as though you “fit”, and go with it.
You will find that a true religion practices what it preaches, and those that dont should be avoided. Any religion requiring money as part of the service or as a part of business as usual should be avoided. If you wish to donate, it should be out of your own heart, and not required. You shouldnt pay a cover charge to be close to your God. That just dont fly.
Follow your needs….find one that fills that hole in your heart…..and enjoy it. If you dont enjoy that church, it is because they dont make you feel welcome, or a part of the whole. It will take time, but any long journey takes time. Besides, getting there is half the fun. Good luck on this journey DW. You will find that regardless of professed differences between religions, they are all pretty much the same. They just show it in different ways. But, you will find that almost all religions agree on one thing. They really hate the snag.
Or, if you want to beat women, have sex with young boys, run amok in the streets screeching at the top of your lungs, carry signs written in a language you cant read or understand, be a dickweed, kill for any reason, rape for the fun of it, get to torture and butcher people because they offended someone, be unemployed, be illiterate, be brainwashed to the point of bleachhead, carry an automatic weapon wherever you go, blow up crowds of women and children, blow up churches, blow up apartment buildings, steal, be a lying thief scumbag shitbird cockbite fuckstick….join the VFP! No, kidding, You can always convert to Islam.
September 16th, 2006 at 12:13 am
How about their stupid habit of going outside and firing rounds into the air in celebration? ‘Course, with their values for human life, they don’t care about the innocent bystanders who might die when those rounds return to earth at the same velocity that they were fired upward……
September 16th, 2006 at 1:01 am
Bullets fired into the air leave the muzzle at X feet per second…travel as far as that velocity takes them until gravity takes over. On it’s return to earth, the bullet will attain terminal velocity which will be relative to it’s weight and volume. But, sorry to say, Wamp…they dont achieve the same velocity as they had when leaving the muzzle. I am knocking this off the top of me haid bone…but the terminal velocity of an object from say, 3000 feet wouldnt exceed 225 mph. But, it may be sufficient to pierce the skull of a human being when it hits. It’s late, or I would look it up.
That doesnt take away the sheer stupidity of it though, and yes Wamp, they are assholes! Nice of you to think that!
September 16th, 2006 at 7:08 am
It seems more and more that the Catholic church is the only one that is sticking to its guns while all the other Christian religions seem to be caving into progressiveness.
Kind of have to agree.My church belongs to the United Church of Christ.Even before their inane commercials that stated “we accept everybody”, I disliked this group. They jump on every liberal bandwagon (Bush is an idiot, the war in Iraq is wrong, there’s nothing wrong with Islam, blah blah blah) under the guise of “Christian tolerance”. While I personally like the members of my church, because they are really nice people, I don’t like their parent group at all. I have seriously thought about becoming Catholic. Englishqueen, any tips?
September 16th, 2006 at 8:05 am
What doesn’t?)
September 16th, 2006 at 9:51 am
“For many Muslims, holy war — jihad — is a spiritual struggle, and not a call to violence. And they denounce its perversion by extremists, who use jihad to justify murder and terrorism.” - NYSlimes article.
Really? I must have missed that.
September 16th, 2006 at 10:03 am
“I can’t honestly claim to be a Christian. I’m still undecided. For me, the battleground is creation (because of my fascination with paleontology and natural history} versus evolution.”
DW, if doubts on that that (or pretty much any other question) is stopping you from joining a church, don’t let it. My mother is an elder in her Presbyterian church, but doesn’t believe in the Immaculate Conception. She worships the Lord, and is a good Christian to her fellow man anyway. I personally believe that Christianity, and a lack of total belief are mutually exclusive things, so I wouldn’t worry.
September 16th, 2006 at 10:16 am
“You will find that regardless of professed differences between religions, they are all pretty much the same. They just show it in different ways. But, you will find that almost all religions agree on one thing. They really hate the snag.”
ROFL!
Thanks a lot, sj. I blew my morning coffee all over my puter screen when I read that. :)
September 16th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
Ok, about this Pope thing…he calls a spade a spade, and gets the entire muslim world in the predictable uproar….well, tough shit. They are terrorists, thugs, killers and the most oppressive group of individuals to ever live. If they get offended, then it is time to show them what really offended is. Until they learn to control themselves, they are going to die wholesale. It isnt just the US, the entire world is getting to that point with every passing day. Pretty soon, it will be difficult to find a muslim, much less worry about offending one. These people need a freakin tune up. Get on par with the rest of society, and stop calling yourself peaceful and tolerant. You arent. Not even close. You are sick minded autocratic stupid morons using religion as an excuse to do whatever you please. You cant. You wont. You are on the cusp of being eliminated, and you are too stupid to see it. Now, kiss my ass, you bearded chunks of used barnyard feces…..you are really pissing me off.
September 16th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
The Pope, Islam, and Context…
Calls for apologies are quickly superseded by scenes of demonstrations wherein banners call for Benedict’s head. I’d say that Benedict touched a raw nerve in his speech alright….
September 16th, 2006 at 11:06 pm
Thanks for the replies, folks. It occurred to me on the way to work this morning that maybe I should have worded that differently. I was thinking in the context of up here where the Catholic Church has been under continual fire because of the same-sex marriage issue. They refuse to budge on their opposition to it. At the same time, other churches -the United Church comes immediately to mind, though they are not the only one- are imploding as they take the liberal stance and thereby divide their members.
I realize (belatedly) that there are a number of Mormons who are members here and probably some Baptists as well -neither group shows up on the radar in this northern debate. Again, I hope no one took offense to that post (I seem to have missed one troll though -if I’m reading the comments right).
NSOS: I mentioned the natural history thing because you can’t get into that without getting into geology, which talks in terms of billions of years and paleontology (my “thing” is the ice age) which gets into evolution. The thing is, all the best material I’ve read on that unwittingly makes an argument in favour of creation.
When you sit at the edge of a lake in country that has seen very few humans, and you’ve got stars, northern lights, loons calling back and forth, even wolves howling if you’re lucky - it gets a guy to thinking…
September 16th, 2006 at 11:25 pm
Grab a copy of a New Living Translation bible, and read Genesis, DW. It’s a great read!
Also, the History Channel has some good documentaries on biblical archaeology. I haven’t seen them do a Creationism vs. Darwinism thing yet, but I DID see a fascinating one on Moses and the Exodus awhile back.
September 16th, 2006 at 11:30 pm
Thanks NSOS. I will.
September 17th, 2006 at 1:25 am
When you sit at the edge of a lake in country that has seen very few humans, and you’ve got stars, northern lights, loons calling back and forth, even wolves howling if you’re lucky - it gets a guy to thinking…
Heck DW…we have that too! We have stars….looney hollyweirdos screeching their way to an early grave courtesy your local muslims
we have northern lights too! The positive glow of the bongs in full tilt while camp democracy is trodding along with it’s cast of tens
as for loons calling back and forth, hell, even the snag has a cell phone, and then there is the Democratic Party still looking for the “real killer” in the OJ comedy….
and, just check the paper and the blog photos!! Those bearded simpleton nincompoops with the signs they cant read or understand are howling like your wolves with their nuts clamped in a bear trap.
So, yeah, we have all that….and more~! (I am so jealous)