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NYT: Haditha Locals Want To Tear Accused Apart

From "The Paper Of Treason," the New York Times:

[AP caption:] This image taken from a videotape made by a Haditha, Iraq journalism student and obtained by Time Magazine via the Hammurabi Human Rights Group, shows a scene in what appears to be a morgue following an alleged fatal raid by United States forces which took place on Saturday, Nov. 19, 2005, in Haditha, Iraq. Marine Corps squad leader Staff Sgt. Frank D. Wuterich was charged Thursday, Dec. 21, 2006, with murdering 12 people and ordering Marines under his command to kill others during an incident that left 24 civilians dead in the Iraqi town of Haditha last year, his attorney said.

Haditha Residents on Charged Marines: Let Us Have Them

December 22, 2006

Here are excerpts from interviews with residents of Haditha, Iraq, and two adjacent towns about the announcement of charges against four American marines in connection with the killings of two dozen Iraqi civilians there last year. Four other Marine officers were charged with failing to properly report information about the killings. The interviews were conducted by an Iraqi employee of The New York Times.

Dr. Waleed Al-Obeidi, 41, the director-general of Haditha hospital

“If they plan to implement justice, then we welcome this step to refer the eight marines to the court, but we have our doubts in American justice. The verdict will be life sentences for four of them and the other four will be released, according to what we heard in the media. They blamed one soldier in the killing of a whole family, while it was carnage. The Iraqi government should have summoned those soldiers and executed them.”

Tahseen Al-Hadithi, 51, cleric and imam of the Haditha mosque

“I prefer they won’t be executed, and to be handed over to Haditha people to get the punishment they deserve.”

Mr. Hadithi said this was not the only crime committed by American forces in Haditha, and noted that charges had been brought in similar incidents elsewhere in the country:

“This is the culture of the occupying marines in our country. If we go back and remember the funeral, and if President Bush could see the family, the children and the women and how the soldiers were moving from one house to another, killing them, what would his comment be? Execution is insufficient punishment to them, and I think they won’t be executed.”

Sheikh Bairam Affan, 69, leader of the Al-Mawali tribe in the nearby town of Barwana

“I went to the U.S. forces in my capacity as a tribal sheikh along with other sheikhs after the massacre and asked the Americans to leave because we can not stop the resistance from attacking them in this area. I said to one of the American commanders if you kill people the same way as you did whenever you are attacked then no one will remain in Haditha.’

“They should get the death sentence because they carried out planned executions.”

Abu Ali, 29, a shop owner in the nearby town of Haqlaniya

“We don’t want them executed in the U.S. Let them bring them here in Haditha and we will tear them apart.”

Noor Laeq, 34, a lawyer who owns a computer and stationary shop in Haqlaniya

“I believe that the sentence will be issued against four of the accused, only. They will cover for the others. The accused will get life sentences, and it is not enough. The whole unit should be put into trial. We expect the same thing that happened in Abu Ghraib, when they convicted low-ranking officers and the higher ones got away. We demand that George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and the Iraqi government should be tried.”

The names of several of these worthies will be familiar to regular readers.

For instance Dr. Waleed Al-Obeidi is the director of the Haditha hospital who begat many of the charges in the first place. He is also a man who hates the US for their alleged brutal treatment of him. (His claims of kidnapping and torture are preposterously over the top.)

Like most of the residents of Haditha, it’s almost a certainty that Mr. Al-Obeidi and the rest of the people The Times chose to interview have close ties to terrorists if they are not terrorists themselves.

Haditha was at the time (and probably still is) run by Sunni terrorists. This includes the hospital where Mr. Al-Obeida worked only at their sufferance.

Objective accounts of the state of Haditha portray the mindless and endless savagery of the people holed up there.

It’s that same savagery the New York Times celebrates here — since it is aimed against their common enemy, the United States.

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20 Responses to “NYT: Haditha Locals Want To Tear Accused Apart”

  1. 1sttofight

    Works for me. Fully arm them and me and we will clean out that nest of liars in short order.
    I am sure the Marine Air Wing will want to be included too.
    Bring it on mother Fuckers.

  2. rocketman

    Mr. Al-Hadithi says: “Execution is insufficient punishment to them” Now what the hell does that mean???

    There has been alot of talk in the media lately about troop increases. The lefties say before we increase troop strength we “need a plan”. I’ve got the damn plan:

    Send 50,000 combat troops over, seal off Sadr City and go go house to house til we have killed all of the Sumbitches. If the resistence is too great have the Air Force fly some wheels over the damn slum like Cholon in Vietnam. About three hours of it will level the place to nothing but sand and gravel. If this fails, we can always resort to the LeMay solution..

    “Nuke ‘em til they glow, then shoot them in the dark” - Gen Curtis LeMay

  3. Gila Monster

    Haditha was at the time (and probably still is) run by Sunni terrorists. This includes the hospital where Mr. Al-Obeida worked only at their sufferance.

    Spot on SG, it is highly likely that all 1,100 residents of Hadithah are terrorist backing asshats.

    I’m with 1st, let the residents take up arms and then send in a battalion of Marines and see what happens. Actually, rather than chance endangering US soldiers lives, just send a flight of B-52’s loaded for bear with 500 pounders. Always impressed the Taliban controlled villages in Afghanistan. Not much to mop up when their done.

  4. Phil Byler

    The anger expressed on this site about these charges being brought is understandable. But the charges have been, and they need to be defeated. So let’s get smart. What needs to happen is the following: (i) constant attention and publicity needs to be put on the case so that there is a public pressure for a fair trial; and (ii) the accused Marines get the best legal counsel they can get.

    These charges have been brought based on the testimony of Iraqis who would not be believed by an American jury because they are tied to the terrorist insurgents and because it is not backed up by autopsy evidence (the Iraqis won’t allow access to the bodies). Given the news stories over time and Murtha’s constant accusations in the press, I would reasonably speculate that there was internal bureaucratic pressure that the Marine brass caved to, perhaps hoping for a repeat of the result in the Ilario Pantano case where premeditated murder charges were brought but Pantano was acquitted. (See his book “Warlord.”) That the New York Times is serving as a voice piece for the terrorists in this matter reflects the coordination of the New York Times and disloyal elements within the federal government that are actively seeking the defeat of the United States in Iraq. That defeat, they think, can be materially advanced by having what they can paint as another My Lai incident, calling upon the Vietnam playbook.

    By beating these charges, we protect good men — the best — who far from being put through the hell they will be, should instead be hailed as the heroes they are, and we have a political springboard to go after the disloyal elements in this country. Do not underestimate the importance of this case. Think about what you can do concretely to help the real victims in the Haditha — our Marines.

  5. BillK

    Please - if the NYT had their way, they would hand over these Marines to the Iraqis.

    Actually, now that the Democrats are about to take control, is there a difference?

    We may not be able to do much but watch in horror. :-(

  6. porterboy

    “The marines are the victims!” The women and children are terrorists! Could military personnel do anything wrong? Oh yeah, Kerry and Murtha. Why don’t you all face it? Sometimes military personnel commit crimes. I bet you all did before and after your service! Now you’re all on military welfare, shopping at the BX, and whining about every little issue because you have nothing better to do.

    Why is our military in Iraq again? Someone remind me? Please whine in your answer and call me names. I love it!

    Ironically, many of you would have much in common with Iraqi Baathists, you like authoritarian rule, weaponry, elitist, close mindedness.

  7. sheehanjihad

    who is this porterboy troll? As though somehow his immature opinion is considered on this site, and his open support of anyone who is anti military. Call him names? Much in common with Baathists? somehow, I really dont give a shit what porter the boy thinks or says….anyone who doesnt think the Marines were set up, and being offered as a world appeasing sacrificial lamb is well, ignorant. No, not ignorant, just dead set against anything positive for this country. It is, of course, a free country, and if “we” were all like Iraqi Baathists….porterboy would not be able to post at all. But, that is his opinion, and fortunately, this is not his turf. Troll away porterboy….your opinion really doesnt matter. But you may get a stronger opinion from others, I am just too weary of assholes tonight to do anything worthwhile. You will, however, be used as a benchmark for stupidity and vapid liberal playback mouthing of someone else’s opinion, because you werent there. You arent familiar with Iraq, the military, or any of the details of the incident. You just blab. That is ok. It would be uncharacteristic of you to do better. In a war of words, dont come so unarmed. It doesnt suit your education.

  8. DEZ

    Well hello porterboy.
    You came looking for a fight, And you started the name calling.
    You have flat out called everyone here criminals and wellfare trash.
    I think you have us confused with your mother.
    Now go back to your bambi books.

  9. Phil Byler

    Hey porterboy, I wrote what I did beause I think that the Iraq War was and is the right thing to do and I think that the Haditha Marines have been worngly accused. I am a 56 year old lawyer who is a graduate of the Harvard Law School and who practices in Manhattan. My career has been spent in the law. My older son is an Army Ranger Lieutenant serving in Iraq; my younger son is a college senior who will be commissioned a Second Lietenant in the Marines; and so yes, I am paying attention.

    According to the government documents back in 2003, we led a coalition of countries that removed Saddam from power because Saddam was in violation of 17 UN arms control resolutions, and he was thumbing his nose at the international community, which was considered not to be an acceptable risk. All the world’s intelligence agencies believed that Saddam had WMDs. He had gassed the Kurds killing thousands, and so it had to be assumed he would use his WMDs. And according to Iraqi Air Force General Georges Sada and translated Saddam government documents, Saddam did have WMDs that he moved to Syria shortly before the invasion; we gave plenty of time to let diplomacy to work, which it didn’t. Saddam at the time had that thing we call the Oil-for-Food scandal going, the purpose of which was to get free of UN arms inspection. According to British intelligence, Saddam attempted to buy yellow cake uranium in Niger; and while that was the subject of a now infamous op-ed piece in the New York Times, translated Saddam governments showed that Saddam did in fact try to buy yellow cake unranium in Niger, causng Christopher Hitchens to write “So sorry, every one, but Saddam did go uranium shopping in Africa.” According to translated Saddam governments reported on by the New York Times (ironically), Saddam was about a year away from having a nuclear device. Does anyone doubt that if Sadam were in power, there would be a nuclear arms race between Saddam and Iran’s Ahmadinejad? Saddam did have ties with terrorists; while he was not in on the planning and execution of 9/11, Saddam did have an operating agreement with al-Qaeda that contemplated future arms transfers; Saddam allowed terrrorist training camps to operate in Iraq; Saddam paid for suicide bombers; and Iraq was the base of operations for the beheader al Zarqawi, who until his death at the hands of the American military was probably the most dangerous al Qaeda leader after 9/11. On top of all this, Saddam was the dictatorial butcher of Baghdad; Saddam’s sons ran rape and torture rooms; and Saddam had hundreds of thousands of Iraqis tortured and killed.

    Victor Davis Hanson has wisely written that those who oppose the Iraq War should be required to state what the world would look like ifd Saddam were still in power. So, would you like to “conenct the dots” — to use the language of the 9/11 Commission? Terrorists operating freely in Iraq where they would have access to Saddam’s WMDs. Saddam having an operating arrangement with al Qaeda. Continued torture and killing of Iraqis. A MIddle East nuclear race between a radical Shiite Islamic regime and a brutal Sunni regime aligned with al-Qaeda and other Islamic terrroist groups. Not a pretty picture at all. The present situation may be problematic, but the alternative of not acting would have meant a far worse world.

    Do you consider yourself reminded now, porterboy?

  10. sheehanjihad

    look, porterboy didnt get that round mouth from eating square meals…..he’s a freakin weasle. And if those Haditha residents want to go a round or two with a battalion of Marines…..oh by all means, bring it on…..only this time, the rules are those of war…not the underhanded media propped lying crap you weaklings call a fight. Marines, if they were allowed to by jerk offs such as the mindless cantalope brained porrige boy, would take your city, take you prisoner, and restore order and do it in less than a day. Haditha residents are stupid enough to believe everything they read and hear, just like prostate boy…..and they would be killed outright if they tried a straight up fight, and if they ducked into the houses this time, the houses would be levelled, one by one, until they either surrendered, or died. Period. Speaking of periods, porterboy is just like those spots on yer drawers…they are there, but you just wash them out and go about your business. what an ass freakin hole.

  11. DEZ

    Nobody here likes authoritarian rule, A good number of people on this site have fought for freedom.
    We will use what ever tools are available to keep fighting.
    Ah but not pottyboy, He has proven himself to be of devoid anything like honor or
    integrity.
    Another reject from code pink that would neuter the very people that take it upon themselves to
    protect him.
    He came trolling just long enough to take a break from popping the zits on his face and wiping the goo from his keyboard.

  12. mathews

    I’m sure the Marines would like to tear into those lying Hadithans.

  13. rocketman

    “Sometimes military personnel commit crimes. I bet you all did before and after your service! Now you’re all on military welfare, shopping at the BX, and whining about every little issue because you have nothing better to do.”

    PorterGuy… You’re blowing some funny smoke….but please, when you Kiss My Ass, don’t blow any my way.

  14. CKO1986

    Porterguy sounds like a real charmer….

  15. sheehanjihad

    “Sometimes military personnel commit crimes”. I wonder if beating the absolute shit out of porterboy would constitue a crime or a public service…..

  16. 1sttofight

    I wonder if beating the absolute shit out of porterboy would constitue a crime or a public service…..

    It would sure make me feel good.

  17. DEZ

    It would definitely be a public service,
    And we could sell tickets, 5$, tatering sticks. 10$
    Tater the tard, Priceless.

    1st, I hope you have a great Christmas with your son.
    And every one here have a great and Merry Christmas.

  18. 1sttofight

    Thanks DEZ,
    So far he has been a typical 23 year old Marine home on leave.
    We go in and look at him sleeping during the day and he goes off prowling at night. ;)

  19. MarineArtist

    I believe PorterPotty meant “shopping at the PX” rather than BX. PX stand for Post Exchange.

    Merry Christmas to all. :o)

    Yes, even to PorterPotty.

  20. sheehanjihad

    right now, porterboy is being detained for trying to eat the fake snow off the windows of his local shoe store while he was blistered on his Christmas toddy of PCP and Crystal Meth….and is now swearing he is one of the elves, and responsible for keeping Santa’s “boo boo” clean during the trip on christmas eve. He is still in restraints, though, singing we wish you a merry christmas at the top of his lungs, punctuating it with…I voted for Kerry! They wouldnt take me in the military!! I voted! Hey, I did!! Wanna see my chipmunk skin?? do ya? wanna play tag with my pet garbage bag?? I’m buyin~! Hey, lets all get effed up, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan……Kerry! Hes the man! George fried, people lied!! maaaaan.


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